Three debunked lies Biden repeated about Trump at the Democratic Convention
Official portrait of Vice President Joe Biden in his West Wing Office at the White House, Jan. 10, 2013. (Official White House Photo by David Lienemann).
Democrats seem to believe that if you say something about Donald Trump loud enough and often enough, it must be true. The most notable practitioner of this is Joe Biden, who did it again at the Democratic Convention in Chicago as he was being kicked out the door.
Much of Biden’s speech was baloney of the highest order – including three big lies he loves to repeat about Trump.
First, the Charlottesville hoax which is demonstrably not true. Second, the “bloodbath” comment which is out of context.
Third is Trump’s supposed statement about those who died in battle being losers and suckers. That one is disputed, but likely not true. A well-known never-Trumper who was there says he didn’t hear it. But Joe Biden repeated it anyway.
Shame on him.
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Biden’s convention speech was (not a joke) a joke!
Biden is no stranger to lies. Most of his speech at his likely final appearance at the DNC Convention was pure fabrication. Biden, who ought to be added to Mount Rushmore according to Nancy Pelosi, told attendees at the United Center and the world that the pro-terrorist agitators outside the convention hall “have a point.” Biden delivered his own “fine people on both sides” comments while nailing Trump for his.
Biden said:
“Those, those protesters out in the street, they have a point. A lot of innocent people are being killed on both sides. We’re working around the clock to end the civilian suffering of the Palestinian people and finally, finally deliver a ceasefire to end this war.”
A ceasefire, if Biden could get one, would be a major gift to Kamala Harris, but also to Hamas since it would prevent Israel from completely wiping out the terrorist group. Biden went on, predictably, to praise his own legacy.
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As talk host Erick Erickson put it, here is what the legacy of the Biden/Harris years is:
- War in Ukraine
- War in the Middle East
- Americans held hostage by Hamas
- Gas up 50 percent
- Electricity up 31 percent
- Groceries up 21 percent
- Rent up 22 percent
- Restaurant prices up 23 percent
- Your cost of living is up and your income is down.
And here’s more of the Biden/Harris legacy:
- Open borders with illegals flooding in
- The Fentanyl drug crisis
- The human trafficking crisis
- A real “bloodbath” of abortion
- Depletion of the strategic oil reserve
- Biden’s war on fossil fuels
- Biden’s illegal student loan forgiveness scheme
- Biden’s runaway spending and ballooning of the National Debt
- The disastrous Afghanistan Withdrawal with 13 service people dead
- Abandoning Bagram Air Force base and billions in equipment
In short, this is the worst legacy of any modern president and perhaps the worst of all time. Yet Biden brags about it, and Pelosi wants to enshrine him on Mount Rushmore. Trump, who had a near-perfect economy with 1.4 percent inflation until the Pandemic, was trashed by Biden.
Biden loves to spread untrue rumors about Trump and he’s done it for years.
From Biden’s “red” speech in Philadelphia with all the Nazi trappings to his final bow at the DNC, Biden has been a pathological liar – especially with regard to Trump. He repeated some of his more ubiquitous whoppers in Chicago. Let’s take a look at three biggest lies.
Number One: The Charlottesville hoax: Trump claimed there were “fine people on both sides.”
Trump said it, of course, but Biden plucks out the quote and connects it with White Supremacy and the Neo-Nazis who showed up in Charlottesville. This one is easy to debunk, because all you have to do is listen to it in context. There was a statue of Robert E. Lee, the celebrated and now-controversial Civil War general. Some wanted his statue removed and others wanted it to stay. There were fine people on both sides.
Even left-wing PolitiFact was honest enough to print the entire transcript of Trump’s August 15, 2017 presser where this comment was made. It’s long and you should read it through if you have doubts, but here is the key sequence:
Trump: “I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs — and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. “But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left — you just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group. So, you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) “… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the –”
Trump: “Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides — I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say.”
Reporter: “The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest –”
Trump: “Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
Reporter: “George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same.”
Trump: “George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down — excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?”
Reporter: “I do love Thomas Jefferson.”
Trump: “Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?
That was Trump jockeying with a left-wing reporter and clearly talking about two sides of removing a statue of Robert E. Lee. The characterization of this comment that Biden uses is a blatant lie.
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Number Two: The “bloodbath” comment related to the automotive industry.
This Biden lie is even more egregious than the Charlottesville lie because there is no doubt as to what Trump was saying. Taken in context, Trump was discussing the U. S. automobile industry – not a presumed reaction to his losing an election as Biden insinuates. You might be willing to give Joe a break due to his dementia, but those around him do noting to stop him from repeated this nonsense.
Here’s what Trump said on March 16, 2024:
China now is building a couple of massive plants where they’re going to build the cars in Mexico and think, they think, that they’re going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border. Let me tell you something to China, if you’re listening President Xi, and you and I are friends, but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now, and you think you’re going to get that, you’re going to not hire Americans, and you’re going to sell the cars to us? No. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars. If I get elected. Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath, for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars.
It’s 100 percent about the automobile industry, and yet Biden pulls out the line near the end with the word “bloodbath,” and twists it into a threat of violence. Biden has no shame, but Dr. Jill ought to know better. And Hunter. Does no one ever say to Joe that he’s accusing Trump of something that isn’t true – and it’s obvious that it’s not true?
Or is it a Democratic Party policy to misquote Donald trump for political purposes? I would guess that misquoting him is no big deal if you’re willing to impeach him twice and take him to court in multiple but scurrilous legal cases.
Number Three: Trump supposedly said military members who died in battle were “suckers and losers.”
Trump says a lot of things, and I cannot say for sure whether he made this comment or not. But I can say it is widely disputed. So much so that it seems unwise to repeat it as truth. The media protects Joe, and he gets away with it.
The claim about Trump’s comments got started in an article in The Atlantic by Jeffrey Goldberg published on September 3, 2020 which was written to make Trump seem obsessively vain and mean-spirited. The piece begins with a tale about President Donald Trump’s canceling a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018:
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Goldeberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, is no fan of Trump’s, referring to him in another article as emotionally and mentally unstable. You’ll forgive me if I question his objectivity when it comes to Trump.
The Hill published a story about this after Trump’s debate with Biden in which the magazine referenced The Atlantic and featured a damning quote:
Near the end of the first 30 minutes, Biden claimed Trump previously verbally attacked and disrespected American veterans, particularly ones who were injured or died during combat.
“My son served in Iraq,” said Biden. “He lived next to burn pits. He came back with glioblastoma…. He [Trump] called veterans suckers and losers. My son was not a loser. He was not a sucker. YOU’RE the loser. YOU’RE the sucker.”
Trump immediately denied the comments, saying in part: “That was a made-up quote. ‘Suckers and losers.’ They made it up. It was in a third-rate magazine that’s failing — like many of these magazines. He [Biden] made that up. He put it in commercials. We had 19 people who said I didn’t say it.”
Despite his claims to the contrary, however, Trump’s own former chief of staff John Kelly previously confirmed Trump called dead veterans “suckers” back in 2018. Discussion of Trump’s comments also did feature in a Biden campaign video earlier this month, which Trump later said should be removed (though no action was ever taken).
The source here was John Kelly who, you would think, ought to know.
Newsweek, however, ran a far more balanced article on the subject on June 13, 2024, that included a quote from never-Trumper John Bolton saying he was there and heard no such thing. Here are some key excerpts:
Trump’s White House denied the comments were said. This refutation was addressed in the Truth Social video, with a recording of former White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany saying: “I want to address what is quite clearly fake news. Eyewitnesses and contemporaneous documents have categorically debunked the story in The Atlantic.”
The article, titled “Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers,'” was based on several sources who spoke on condition of anonymity… Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung provided Newsweek comments from co-campaign manager Chris LaCivita who said that the “Biden campaign is peddling a fake and thoroughly debunked story”… Cheung added there were 19 officials “who went on the record disputing The Atlantic story.”
A statement released by the White House in September 2020 included a list of quotes from 19 officials “Refuting Anonymous Sources in False ‘The Atlantic’ Story.” Some of the quotes are specific, such as from former deputy assistant to the President Jordan Karem, who said it was “100 percent false,” adding he was alongside Trump the day of the visit.
John Bolton who said in his statement: “I didn’t hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them” also said in an interview: “I’m not saying he didn’t say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion” as reported by The New York Times.
The story, in legal terms, is hearsay. True or not, and it depends on who you believe, Biden has no business presenting it as undisputed fact. In fact, Joe, who lies constantly about everything from his record to his battle with Corn Pop, to his uncle being eaten by cannibals, has no business accusing anyone of lying. Biden is a congenital liar and an admitted plagiarist. Anything he says ought to be taken with a grain of salt.
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As for Trump, I sometimes cringe when I hear some of what comes out of his mouth. But most of what he says is true, even if it’s not prudent to say it. However, when Trump was president, the economy was near-perfect, the border was secured, and we had no wars in Ukraine and Gaza. I’ll take a guy who exaggerates the size of his crowds any day over a guy who lies constantly about everything and who wrecked the country.
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